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DEERFIELD TOWNSHIP

BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS

6:30 PM  - SEPTEMBER 11th, 2008

MINUTES

CALL TO ORDER                      James Rinehart

ROLL CALL                              Board Members:            Brian Leary, James Klatte, James Rinehart, Greg Porta, and

                                                                                    Alternate William Lantry were present

                                                Absent:                         Mike Kean

                                                Staff Present:                Lois McKnight, Hayfaa Wadih, Marilyn Arnold

                                                                                    Also present was township attorney, Joe Walker.

James Rinehart asked for those in attendance to pause for a moment of silence due to the anniversary of September 11, 2001. 

Motion by James Klatte and second by Brian Leary for the board to go into Executive Session.  The vote was all Ayes.

Motion by Brian Leary and second by James Klatte to come back into Regular Session.  The vote was all Ayes.

Joe Walker, township attorney, administered the oath to those giving testimony.

Motion                                         Motion by Greg Porta and second by James Klatte to approve minutes of 08/14/08

                                                     including adding the word “non” on Page 3 paragraph 6, as suggested by Greg  Porta.

                                                     The vote was as follows:

                                                     Ayes:                                    Brian Leary, James Klatte, Greg Porta, & William Lantry

                                                     Abstained:                             James Rinehart

                                                     Absent:                                 Mike Kean 

Case 2008-300              Saturn of Kings Automall , 9536 Kings Auto Mall Road Requesting Variance to Section

                                    22.10 B.1.a.(i) and 22.10 B.1.c., 22.02 D. and 22.05 D.

Staff Report  Hayfaa Wadih said the application is a request for a variance to the zoning resolution.  She said the applicant is proposing to put a new “Sky Box” wall sign with a red “Horizons” arch to accent the building entrance to the showroom and lessen the effect of a box-life building.  Applicant is trying to create a new image and this change will be done throughout the country at the Saturn Dealerships.  Applicant said the 160 feet setback from the road makes it difficult to be visible or differentiated from other adjacent car dealerships.

Deerfield Township Zoning Resolution (DTRZ) permit one wall mounted sign and one ground mounted sign in the General Business (G-B) District.   Also, the Resolution does not permit the sign to be higher than the wall on which it is erected. She quoted the four standards for variance and provided the applicant’s explanation of meeting the standards for a variance.  She asked for questions from the board.  Jim Klatte asked her if the drawing accurately depicts the proposed sign.  Ms. Wadih said there is a drawing showing measurements in the board’s packet.  Brian Leary asked her if the 80 square feet old sign was in compliance.  Ms. Wadih said that sign was approved previously but not under the current staff.

                                     

Proponent Darrell Russell, 1817 Hollybrook Drive, Burlington, KY, said they have not made any significant changes to the building in 17 years.  He said Saturn is doing this all across the country.  He asked the board to view the photo and notice how difficult it is to see their building.  The structure is small and they hope the Horizon arch and sky box would accentuate it and add a lot of visual that would make it more noticeable in the auto mall.   He said they are looking forward to making these changes. 

Mike Cassedy, Atlantic Sign Company, 769 Ice Lane, Burlington, KY, said this is a national program from Saturn, and the auto industry is not doing too well at this time.  He said they want to add “pop” to their building.  They are trying to keep their businesses going and this is one of the least expensive ways to give the building a new look.  He said he realizes that when one business is allowed to make a change, the rest may come and seek the same allowances.   James Klatte told him that they take these cases as individual cases.  James Rinehart said each case is looked at on a case-by-case basis.  Mr. Cassedy said he worked with La-Z-Boy to give them a better look. 

Mr. Cassedy gave the example that if he would apply to do a remodel of the building changing the roofline and putting a clock in the sky box, that remodel would most likely be allowed.  He was trying to make the point that the box with clock would be allowed but the box with a logo in it would not.  Greg Porta told him the problem is because the box is higher than the roofline.  Brian Leary said if the box would be lower than the roofline there would not be a problem.  Mr. Cassedy asked if he raised the arch up to be as high as the Shadow Box would that help?  Greg Porta said it would help if the arch could go to the same level as the top of the sign.  Mr. Cassedy said he was trying to establish where the roofline is.  Mr. Cassedy talked about lighting.  He explained that Sky Box will illuminate electronically changing colors from yellow to belu to green over a 20 minute period.  Back behind the sign is where the indirect lighting is located and he called it a “halo” affect.  Greg Porta said he would like to hear from the store manager.  Greg asked him if the parapet wall could be brought up to the height of the box. 

Darrell Russell, 1817 Hollybrook Drive, Burlington, KY, said the parts for the new design are already built for locations across the country but he would be willing to see if it could be done.  He said he was willing to ask them and see if he can raise the wall.  He said they really do want this project completed.   Greg Porta said should we consider that horizon / arch the parapet wall.  Mr. Russell explained the way the sign is made and talked about whether it could be changed.  James Klatte said is it feasible that the sky box could be set lower.  James Klatte asked him about some of the construction on the sign which is already completed.  Mr. Russell explained that the iron poles go into the ground and attach on the top but he said he didn’t know if it could be made to be lower.

William Yusko, 2845 Ridge Avenue, Hebron, KY, said he recently installed one of these at another Saturn.  He went on to explain how he put it together.  He said the changes could be done but it would look different from the other Saturns around the country.

Discussion William Lantry said he thought the sign should stay the way it is because it seems like it would be too difficult for them to change it.  Greg Porta said they need to raise the parapet wall, to help them comply with our rules.  Brian Leary asked Mr. Yusko to come back to speak.

William Yusko, 2845 Ridge Avenue, Hebron, KY, Brian Leary asked if the parapet is independent of the sign and he asked for more details about the way it would be installed.  Mr. Yusko said the box is separate from the parapet wall and he explained how are technically attached.  He said the sign sits separately on the torsion tube.  On the back side there are two bolts.  The sign is independently on the steel beam.  Joe Walker cited the definition of sign from the Zoning Resolution; under the definition section under 3.118 Signs and measurements thereof the last sentence says “frames and borders not being advertising matters shall not be included in the service area.”  Greg Porta asked if we had determined how far over the parapet wall it extends.  Ms. Wadih said no.  Mr. Yusko said about three feet. 

Mike Cassedy, Atlantic Sign Company, 769 Ice Lane, Burlington, KY, came back to talk.  Brian Leary asked him how long is the red horizon area and how high.  The conclusion was that the arch/horizon section is about 9 feet wide and 6 feet high. 

Joe Walker said a logo is considered a sign.  Greg Porta said this dealership is not that visible.  He said he didn’t have a problem with this sign.  Brian Leary said he would make a motion to approve the sign.  Lois McKnight said they need to determine that they have met the standards for variance.  Joe Walker said what Greg Porta just said speaks to the first two findings of fact.  James Klatte said they haven’t addressed the lighting issue.  Brian Leary was interested in an architectural drawing showing measurements and size of everything.  James Rinehart said would they have to show those measurements when they submit for a zoning permit?  Lois said yes a zoning permit would be necessary and measurements would be shown.  Greg Porta said if the arch/horizon is considered a parafit wall, there is no problem.  James Klatte said we need to suggest they work with staff.  Lois said we need to find that the 4 standards for variance have been met.

Motion Greg Porta made a motion seconded by James Klatte to approve the variance in Case 2008-300 with findings as follows: 

1.       The subject property setback is 160 feet from the right of way which makes visibility hard.

2.       The existing sign square footage is basically under what the Zoning Resolution permits.

3.       Approving the additional sign will not have an adversary impact on the surroundings properties.

4.       No additional square footage is requested over what the Zoning Resolution permits; therefore, approving the additional sign does not violate the spirit and intent of Deerfield Township Zoning Resolution.

 

             The motion was approved on the following vote:

              Ayes      Brian Leary, James Klatte, Greg Porta, James Rinehart ,and William Lantry

              Abstain  None             

              Absent   Mike Kean

Mr. Rinehart excused himself from the meeting since he had a former personal relationship to the people involved in this case.   He asked for a motion to elect a temporary Chairperson.

Motion by Brian Leary and second by James Klatte to elect Greg Porta as a temporary Chairperson.  The vote was all Ayes. 

Greg Porta asked if other persons have come in, and if they needed to be sworn in.  There were none.  He said the public portion of the meeting was closed last month.  He said we will be hearing a staff report from Mr. Clark and then we will go from there. 

Continued…...

Case 2008-226              Administrative Appeal of Zoning Violation Notice at R-SF Property, 4135 Socialville-Fosters Road, Owned by Jeff Stauffer.

Jeff Stauffer asked about the number of people present on the board tonight and asked that the case not be heard tonight but be heard next month.  The board told him the vote would have to be 3 yes to approve.  Greg Porta said since we are listening for evidence that there was prior approval for activity on the property previous to Deerfield Township having zoning in 1997, he thought the board should go ahead and hear the case.  Joe Walker said this board is free to move forward.  The board agreed to go ahead with the case.                                                                            

Staff Report: Matt Clark reviewed the location of the property and the actions to date to recap the August 14, 2008 BZA meeting.  Mr. Clark reiterated Mr. Stauffer’s claim that his uses are legally nonconforming based upon his date of ownership in 1988 under the Warren County Rural Code.  Mr. Clark stated that he investigated the pertinent requirements of the 1988 effective Warren County Rural Zoning Code, and concluded that Mr. Stauffer’s activity was no more allowed under that code as it is present code.  There was no evidence that the Warren County Rural Zoning authority had given approval to Mr. Stauffer to operate his business from his home on R-1 zoned land.  Mr. Clark again offered his conclusions, determinations and summations to the Board, with photographs offered for review on the overhead.  Mr. Clark asked for questions from the Board.  Brian Leary asked if the Warren County Code was pretty similar to the current code?  Mr. Clark said yes.

Proponent: Jeff Stauffer, 4135 Socialville-Fosters Road, said he looked for some old photos which would show that he was conducting his business from that location in 1988.  He said he doesn’t need photos for proof because he did have the business at that time.  He presented some documentation showing where he had purchased some equipment with dates showing that they were from the 1980’s.  He said the nursery stock was a legal purchase for his property and his equipment was used for that.  Mr. Stauffer said he didn’t feel that his business was a problem all these 20 years until there was a complaint in July.  He reminded this board that Natorp and others are doing the same thing.  He said there are other neighbors here tonight who have no problem with his business.  He said the business was existing all of this time before the neighbor made the complaint.  He said he went to Warren County and they told him Tim Hershner removed all of the files that Warren County had relating to Deerfield Township and brought them to the township.  Mr. Stauffer restated Bob Craig’s (WCRPC) claim that all but the 1986 aerial photography should have been in Deerfield Township’s possession.  Mr. Stauffer offered history of a case for William Wallace allowing sales of firewood prior to Deerfield Township Zoning.  That case came before Warren County Zoning and then later Mr. Wallace received approval from Deerfield Township for a PUD zoning which allowing firewood sales. 

Greg Porta said the nursery stock and feeder calves weren’t an issue but the illegal sign brought the first attention to your property.  Brian Leary asked if he had any documentation from Warren County Rural Zoning saying he was allowed to have this business at his home prior to Deerfield Township Zoning.  Mr. Leary said that this is what this board is looking for, to enable you to present your case.  Mr. Porta asked Mr. Stauffer if he had spoken to Mr. Craig at Warren County, to ask if he would have been allowed to conduct his business.  Mr. Porta said an inspector driving down the road would not have noticed what was going on since the activity is so far back from the street.  James Klatte said you have not proven to us that this business was allowed by Warren County.  Mr. Leary said we would need to see some documentation from the county verifying that you were allowed to do this and you would have gone to Warren County and sought permission from them many years ago.  Mr. Lantry addressed Mr. Stauffer in saying that he would have been an active participant in getting this permission from the county, and no one would have done it without Mr. Stauffer’s prompting.  Mr. Lantry continued in saying that it was shown last month at the BZA meeting that the township held off enforcement at the time, but when the an official complaint came from an adjoining neighbor, that is what brought the attention to the property. 

Mr. Walker said the code sets forth what is permitted under the designated use.  Staff has determined that the property is in violation of the code.  It is on the applicant to prove that an exception ought to be made.  Unless there is evidence presented that he was a legal nonconforming use or that some type of permit was issued from the township or county at some former time, I don’t believe that the staff has abused their discretion in saying that he was outside his permitted use.

Mr. Porta asked him if he had anything else to present.  Mr. Stauffer said the township was well aware that the mulch business was going on.  He said he received notices regarding the sign.  Mr. Stauffer said on the photos he had last time you could see the mulch pile.  Mr. Leary said that 10 years ago if this was discovered there would have been the same problem then. 

Mr. Stauffer asked why staff doesn’t do anything about other abuses in the township.  Mr. Klatte said this board looks at each case individually.  Mr. Klatte asked him is he had any kind of legal documentation.  Mr. Stauffer said so the board did not need to see receipts or photos.  Mr. Porta said the Board wanted to establish that Mr. Stauffer had prior permission to have the business.  Mr. Porta continued that Mr. Stauffer proved that he had businesses and equipment on site prior to our code, but did not prove that he had permission from Warren County to legally operate it from the property.

Proponent:  Jack Stauffer, 4135 Socialville-Fosters Road, asked why if some of the businesses on their property are considered agricultural, why are they not allowed to keep the equipment there?  Mr. Leary said you stated in the last meeting that you are using the equipment for your construction business.  Mr. Porta said the track-hoe is used for construction, not agriculture.  Mr. Stauffer continued stating that they have agriculture use.  Jack Stauffer wanted to have more public comments.  Mr. Porta replied that, at the last meeting there was a time allowed for public comments and the public could have spoken.  Mr. Klatte directed to Jack Stauffer, that there was no public comment component to a BZA hearing, but rather a proponent and opponent portion.  Mr. Porta restated that they’d already closed public comment portions of the hearing last time.

Mr. Leary said the proponent didn’t establish that there was permission from the county.  Mr. Porta said Mr. Stauffer did not prove that.  Mr. Lantry said he is operating some agriculture business there.  Mr. Porta said they are appealing whether Deerfield Township Staff was in error in the way they enforced their code.  That is the question.  Mr. Porta continued, that the Stauffers were unable to prove to the Board that they were a legal non-conformance.   Now we have to decide or whether the township has enforced the code without error and Mr. Porta said in his opinion they have done that.

Motion   James Klatte made a motion and seconded by Brian Leary to deny Administrative Appeal 2008-226.

             The motion was carried on the following vote:

             Ayes:      Brian Leary, James Klatte, Greg Porta, and William Lantry

             Abstain:  None             

             Absent:   Mike Kean and James Rinehart

Mr. Klatte asked staff and counsel if there is anything that Mr. Stauffer could do to work with the township.  Mr. Walker said a separate meeting with staff and counsel would be appropriate if Mr. Stauffer wants to meet.

New Business  Hayfaa Wadih said there are no cases so far for next month.  Lois McKnight reminded the board they have new Zoning Resolution books.

Adjourn  Motion by James Klatte and second by Greg Porta to adjourn.  The vote was all Ayes.

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Greg Porta, Acting Chair Person                     Date                       James Rinehart, Secretary                                   Date                                                                                                   

 

 

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