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Board of Zoning Appeals Meeting Minutes

July 8th, 2004 

       MINUTES

 CALL TO ORDER:                Robert Bender, Chairman

 ROLL CALL:                          James Rinehart, Cherry Linder, William Heckman, Brian Leary, and Alternate James Klatte were present.  (Robert Bender was absent with notice.)  Also present was Rob Butler, township legal council

                                                There was discussion on who  would be a acting chair person and the previous chair person will lead tonight, Cherry Linder, who is now the board secretary.

 Motion to nominate Vice-chairperson.

Motion                                     There was a motion by James Rinehart to table the motion to nominate a Vice –chairperson.  There was a 2nd by William Heckman.

                                                Roll Call  Cherry Linder-yes, James Klatte-yes, William Heckman-Yes, James Rinehart-Yes  The motion was approved.

 

Motion                                     There was a motion by James Klatte to approve the minutes of June 10th, 2004, with a change on Page 2, under the applicant .  In the 7th line “Mr. Leary asks him if he” should be changed to Mr. Klatte asked him if he”  There was a  second by James Rinehart.

 Roll Call  James Klatte-yes, William Heckman-Yes, James Rinehart-Yes  Cherry Linder-yes  The motion was approved.

Cherry Linder did a swearing in of those who will be giving testimony.  James Rinehart explained the process of the meeting.

CASE 2004-415                         9755 Barnswood Drive, Garage in Side Yard Variance

 Staff Presentation                    Mayank Kumar explained the request to build a 2 car garage in the side yard at 9755 Barnswood Drive.  The Deerfield Township Zoning Resolution (Code) requires any accessory structure to be an “integral” part of the main structure if built in the side yard.  Otherwise, a detached accessory structure is allowed only in the rear yard.  Mr. Kumar showed the location of the property on the map on the powerpoint.  He showed an aerial photograph and pointed out the house on the photo and the location for the proposed structure.  The detached garage size is 26 x 30 feet.  Mr. Hartsig owns 2 lots, Lot #38 and Lot #39 and the existing house is sitting on the property line of those 2 lots.  The property owner is requesting to widen the driveway.  The setback of the proposed garage from the main building is approximately 21 feet.  The neighbors have indicated that they are in support of the requested variance, and Mr. Klaber, property owner to the immediate south, 9771 Barnswood Lane, has submitted a letter in support of the proposed variance. 

 Mr. Kumar said there is another option if this is not approved, to build it in the rear yard.  The applicant had a drawing showing how many trees would have to be removed if the garage would be put in the rear yard.  Mr. Kumar showed several photos to the board.  The proposed garage is 12 feet high for the garage and an 8 feet high loft, a total height of 22’-6”.  The roof would be shingle roofing and the exterior would be brick to match the existing residence.  One of the conditions of any variance is that the property owner must show an unnecessary hardship.  Mr. Kumar said since the property owner himself has indicated that he could build the garage in the rear, it is not an unnecessary hardship.  Mr. Hartsig wants to preserve the area for the park like setting for the benefit of community which staff supports.  Mr. Kumar said the garage in the side could be placed there in a way that it would look like it is a continuation of the main structure.  The staff has 3 suggestions to make this look like an integral part of the main structures as follows:

 1.   The proposed garage shall be moved closer to the main residential structure (approximately 10 feet) so that the southern edge of the existing drive aligns with the southern edge of the proposed garage.  This would still leave about twelve (12) feet distance between the proposed garage and the main residential structure and would allow all the pedestrian movement between the rear and the side of the house.

2.   Connect the main residential structure and proposed garage with some architectural elements for example, trellis, faux wall, or breezeway, etc.  The color, material, roof line, and the architectural elements of the proposed garage shall be similar to that of the main residential structure.

3.   Provide landscaping along the southern property line consisting of trees and bushes.  A row of deciduous bushes (i.e. leatherleaf viburnum)  shall be planted to provide an effective hedge row screen of six (6) feet in height within 3 years of occupancy.

 Mr. Kumar said that staff has shared these 3 suggestions with the property owner and Mr. Hartsig agreed to look into option of integrating the garage into the main structure but declined to move the garage any closer to the house because of a gas line and French drain. Mr. Kumar said that the gas lines and French drain are not shown on any drawing and such drawing is required to make an informed decision. Staff has requested the applicant to provide such drawing.  On the plat there is no easement on this property.  If the easement is in place you cannot move those utilities, but since this is not reflected on the plat it could possibly be moved.  The staff acknowledges that it would be in the best interest of the community to maintain the rear yard in a park line manner.  In the event of approval the staff recommends the following:

       1,    The proposed garage shall be moved as close to the main residential structure as possible.  Relocation of the  proposed garage shall consider any impact on the existing “gas line” and “French drain” in the side yard.  Engineered design for the foundation of the proposed garage shall be required, if necessary, in order to mitigate any conflict between the proposed garage structure and the existing “gas line” and “French drain.”

 2.   There shall be some architectural elements (e.g. faux wall, wooden or concrete trellis, or a breezeway) designed  to achieve “integration” between the proposed garage and the main residential structure.  The color, material, and the roof line of the proposed garage and the architectural elements shall replicate the main residential structure.

 3.   The landscaping along the southern property line shall include “A:” type trees planted at thirty (30) feet center-to-center.  A row of bushes shall be planted to effectively screen the view of garage from Barnswood Lane and adjacent property to the south, 9771 Barnswood Lane.  The landscaping shall also take into consideration the integration of the main structure and the proposed garage.  All landscaping shall be in compliance with Chapter 21, Bufferyard and Landscaping, of Deerfield Township Zoning Resolution and shall be planted outside of any drainage easement.

 4.   Prior  to the approval of the zoning permit for the proposed garage, location of the proposed garage, design of the

       architectural elements, and landscaping plan as described in Conditions #1, #2, and #3 respectively shall require

       review and approval from the Deerfield Township Zoning Administrator.

 5.   No detached accessory structure shall be allowed in the rear yard.

 Mr. Kumar referred to 3 previous cases which were similar to this case in which the board approved the detached accessory structure in the side yard.  They are on page 4 of the staff report.  Mr. Kumar asked for questions.  Jim Klatte asked him if the new condition #5, excludes playhouses?  Mr. Kumar said no. The idea is to maintain the rear yard in a park like setting and under the current zoning allowance, the property owner could building another accessory structure in rear yard and so condition #5 would restrict such allowance.  Cherry Linder asked her if there are any actual letters from any property owners.  Mr. Kumar said there is a letter from the property owner to the south which was submitted along with application and also staff has received some e-mails from other neighbors, all of which are included in the packet.  Cherry said only 1 or 2 people sent the e-mails.  Cherry said the listing implied that everyone approves of this proposal but we received 2 e-mails.  Ms. Linder asked for the applicant to come forward.

 Johanna Hutchins, Attorney, 8050 Hans Road, Suite 200, Cincinnati, OH 45236, introduced the builder who was in attendance, Dan Jenkins, 3030 Knightwind Drive, Maineville, OH 45039.  Ms. Hutchins said Mr. Hartsig was out of town and could not be at the meeting.  She confirmed with the board that they had all received Mr. Hartsig’s packet with the information and photos.  Ms. Hutchins had a correction that it is 22 feet from the neighbor to the south, not 21 feet.  Ms. Hutchins said if the garage would be put in the backyard, 6 trees would have to be removed.  Ms. Hutchins said the integrity of the backyard would be destroyed if the garage were put in the backyard.  Ms. Hutchins referred to Ms. Linder’s comments about the number of property owners and said she could get letters from all the adjoining property owners if that were truly a concern.  Ms. Hutchins said Mr. Hartsig spoke to all 11 of the homeowners and they were all in support of his position.  Ms. Hutchins said the person who would be most adversely affected if the garage were sitting in the backyard due to the fact he would have to look at it.  Cherry Linder said the reason she commented about the letters because she usually gets them in her packet.  Jim Rinehart asked Ms. Hutchins to explain what she just said about the neighbor viewing the garage.  Ms. Hutchins said that even  the neighbor who would be most affected whether the garage was in the side or the back yard, approved it.  Ms. Hutchins said the gas line and French drain is not in an easement because it is on his own property.  Ms. Hutchins pointed out on the photo the location of the gas meter and said that is where the gas line is located.  Mr. Kumar said we need to see lines on the drawing showing where the gas line and the French drain are located.  Ms. Hutchins said setting it back 12 feet from the main structure is still not in compliance.  She said the landscaping, the patio, and the turn around space will be affected.  Jim Rinehart asked him what “turn around” area are you talking about.  Mr. Rinehart said the turn will be the same and the turn around will not have any impact.  Ms. Hutchins said because there will be a whole other structure there, it will cause a problem.  Mayank asked the builder if he has designed any structures with gas lines or French drains.  Mr. Jenkins said the water in the French drain will cause erosion under the slab.  Mr. Jenkins said it would have to be designed to go around the slab.  Mayank said the French drain could be left in place but design the foundation in such a manner that there would be space for  the French drain.  Mr. Jenkins said that would be very expensive.  Cherry Linder asked about the size of the lot where the garage is.  She was told it is almost an acre.  Ms. Linder said she regrets that Mr. Hartsig is not here.  She asked what the garage would be used for.  Mr. Jenkins said it would be for storage of extra cars and a small utility trailer.  Ms. Linder asked if the entire garage would be brick and they said yes.  Ms. Linder asked for other public comment.  There was none.  Ms. Linder closed the public discussion and asked for board comments.

 Board Comments                    Jim Rinehart said he is a “tree hugger” but he doesn’t really believe that putting the garage in the back would cause removal of that many trees.  Mr. Rinehart said he doesn’t think they want to move the garage.  He believes the property will still have enough trees from looking at Site Plan A, preferred option.  He said he believes the park like feature will remain.  He said the garage location as suggested by staff would not cause problems for  turning around.  Mayank said he believes the problem that the applicant is concerned about is the French drain and the gas line.  Mr. Rinehart said the majority of the trees will be left.  William Heckman said the garage could go 5 feet from the property line. 

 Cherry Linder said she is trying to look at the big picture and see the hardship.  She said every time the board approves a variance, it just gets added to the list and we are committed to treat every case individually.  Ms. Linder said this is a large lot and there are plenty of places in the rear yard where the garage could go.  She said this is large garage and it is 22 feet high, which is the height of a warehouse.  Mr. Kumar said the way the township zoning code reads, he can build his house or garage with a 5 feet setback.  Condition #5 is there so the rear yard will remain in a park like state.  Ms. Linder asked Dan Jenkins, 330 Knightwind, Maineville, OH, to come forward.  She asked him if there is heat or plumbing planned for the building and Mr. Jenkins said there is not going to be any heat or plumbing, just minimal electric.  There was discussion on the height of the garage.  Mr. Jenkins said the typical garage is 10 feet high but they want the loft area for storage.  There was discussion on removal of the loft but Mr. Jenkins said the pitch of the roof is to make the garage roof match the house and that area is wanted for storage.  Jim Rinehart said the back yard is large enough for the garage and he believes there will still be trees left.

Motion                                     There was a motion by William Heckman to approve Case 2004-415 with the 5  Conditions from the staff and changing Condition #1.

       1,    The proposed garage shall be moved as close to the main residential structure as possible but in no event closer than 12 feet.    Relocation of the proposed garage shall consider any impact on the existing “gas line”  and “French drain” in the side yard.  Engineered design for the foundation of the proposed garage shall be  required, if necessary, in order to mitigate any conflict between the proposed garage structure and the existing  “gas line” and “French drain.”

 2.   There shall be some architectural elements (e.g. faux wall, wooden or concrete trellis, or a breezeway) designed  to achieve “integration” between the proposed garage and the main residential structure.  The color, material,  and the roof line of the proposed garage and the architectural elements shall replicate the main residential structure.

 3.   The landscaping along the southern property line shall include “A:” type trees planted at thirty (30) feet center-to-center.  A row of bushes shall be planted to effectively screen the view of garage from Barnswood Lane and adjacent property to the south, 9771 Barnswood Lane.  The landscaping shall also take into consideration the integration of the main structure and the proposed garage.  All landscaping shall be in compliance with Chapter 21, Bufferyard and Landscaping, of Deerfield Township Zoning Resolution and shall be planted outside of any drainage easement.

 4.   Prior  to the approval of the zoning permit for the proposed garage, location of the proposed garage, design of the

      architectural elements, and landscaping plan as described in Conditions #1, #2, and #3 respectively shall require

      review and approval from the Deerfield Township Zoning Administrator.

 5.    No detached accessory structure shall be allowed in the rear yard.

 There was a 2nd by James Klatte.  Roll call:  James Klatte-Yes William Heckman-Yes James Rinehart-No Cherry Linder-No  Since there was a tie vote the motion failed.

 There was some discussion on doing another motion.  The attorney, Joanna Hutchins for  the proponent said, “I think you are spinning your wheels because it won’t work and I don’t want you to go through 15 different motions knowing one of them won’t work.  I understand and he understands.”  Rob Butler, township attorney, said, “Just so that goes on the record, counsel for the proponent was saying that these conditions, apparently, those conditions in the first motion wouldn’t have worked, and therefore any subsequent motions  which we would anticipate I guess would be more restrictive rather  than less, probably wouldn’t be acceptable.”  Attorney Johanna Hutchins, representing  the proponent, said,  “I don’t want the BZA to spend their time trying to work this out when he’ll just put it in his back yard.”

 Old Business                            Mayank Kumar said this Case 2004-190, Shell Oil, 9791 Mason-Montgomery Road was heard previously.  The applicant requested that the board continue this case in order to get additional information.  They requested to re-face the signs.  Mr. Kumar did a comparison of the signs they are requesting and what the zoning board approved for the BP last year.  Ten signs were approved under Warren County Zoning and Deerfield Township allows 2 signs, one free standing and one wall sign.  He showed 7 violations.  Jim Rinehart asked him if they have corrected  the violations and Mayank said no.  Mayank said they have actually added more.  Cherry Linder said these are in violation today and he said yes.   Mayank said he met with the applicant and  the applicant has requested 4 signs, 1 highway sign, 1 free standing sign, and 2 wall signs on the canopy.  He said the way our code reads, the farther the sign sits back from the ROW, the higher it is allowed to be.  He gave the background of the signs and what has occurred over the years on the property.

 In the event the board approves this case, there are 8 conditions as follows:

1.         The maximum sign face area for the entire site shall be limited to 270 square feet.  This sign face area shall

include the highway sign, freestanding sign, and wall signs for the gas pump canopy.

2.               A maximum of two (2) canopy signs shall be allowed.

3.              The car wash building signage shall be limited to two (2) directional signs each being less than eight square feet in area and located above the vehicle doorway entering and exiting the car wash building and reading “entrance” and “exit” , respectively.

4.              There shall be no sign on the convenience store.

5.               One freestanding pylon sign located along Mason-Montgomery Road with a setback of twenty feet shall be allowed.  The said sign shall not be more than 25 feet in height (22 feet high freestanding sign on 3 feet high concrete base (and 142 square feet in area (each double sided) as depicted on the attached Exhibit “A”.

6.               The existing highway sign shall be allowed.  The said sign shall not be more than 75 feet in height and 144 square feet in area  (sign panel of 12’ x 12’ for pectin or logo sign.)

7.               No other signage is permitted that is legible from the public right-of-way including, but not limited to, gas pump signage, lighting post signage, freestanding signage, and temporary signs.  All extraneous signs shall be removed from the site prior to issuance of zoning permit.

8.               This variance shall be valid for this refacing only.  Any future changes to the signs shall require compliance with Chapter 22, Signs, of Deerfield Township Zoning Resolution.

William Heckman asked about the 2 sides, and asked do you count 1 side?  Mayank told him you count the square footage on 1 side.  Cherry Linder said she was concerned about the violations and asked if there are fines.  Mayank said yes.  He said Kevin Fehring, the zoning inspector, waits for the board’s decision then if it is in violation, Kevin does a letter for tickets for fines.  Cherry asked if he has done that on this case and Mayank said yes.  Mayank said in the file there is a letter for this address.

 Proponent                    Janet Weiler, LJB Signs, 3100 Research Blvd., Dayton, OH 45420, said Shell puts her in a difficult spot.  She said Shell puts up banners and she asks them to take them down.  They do promotions across the country and the signs are put up.  She said she wants to reduce the signage but Shell Corporate comes up with these promotions.  Cherry Linder suggested a regional manager be contacted.  William Heckman asked her who erects the promotional signs?  Ms.Weiler said it comes from the internal operations.  Jim Rinehart asked her if the manager is aware, why doesn’t the manager step in and correct the problem.  There was discussion on these promotions and violations.  Cherry Linder closed this portion of the meeting and asked for any public comments.  There were none.  Cherry asked for board comments. 

Board Comments         Jim Klatte said he was concerned about the free standing sign and how they are going to bring it into compliance.  Mayank said the total sign face area is their job to figure out what to do to comply with our suggestions, similar to what was approved for BP.  Cherry Linder said he attitude is that the sign issue is very complicated.  Mayank understands and is a very competent person and we should go ahead with his suggestions on this.  Jim Rinehart said he is concerned about the violations. 

 Motion                         There was a motion by James Rinehart to approve Case 2004-190, with the 8 Conditions suggested by staff.  There was a 2nd by Cherry Linder.

 Roll  Call   William Heckman-Yes, James Rinehart-Yes, Cherry Linder-Yes, James Klatte-YesThe motion was approved.

ADJOURNMENT            Motion by James Klatte to adjourn.   There was a 2nd by James Rinehart The motion was approved.